Faircoin-Ecosystem-Commons issueshttps://git.fairkom.net/FairCoin/FairCoin_Economy_Strategies/-/issues2018-08-01T21:16:05Zhttps://git.fairkom.net/FairCoin/FairCoin_Economy_Strategies/-/issues/14Free ourselves from the tyranny of the capitalist market2018-08-01T21:16:05ZGampe SebastianFree ourselves from the tyranny of the capitalist marketIndependence from the speculative market is our goal since the beginning of FairCoop. Now we have a real chance to do it, but it requires a brave and consensuated commitment.
After 4 years of this wonderful and successful experiment, we...Independence from the speculative market is our goal since the beginning of FairCoop. Now we have a real chance to do it, but it requires a brave and consensuated commitment.
After 4 years of this wonderful and successful experiment, we are still checking the coinmarketcap graphs, and making our Faircoin decisions according to the capitalist market price, even though this market is only happening in one single exchange, and its volume is ridiculously low. We are adapting our needs to those of a tiny minority.
It is a mistake to be basing our decisions on this, but the truth is the double price has a strong psychological effect on some of us. It is our chore to ignore it, just pretend it doesn't exist, because the reality is it almost doesn't exist. Of course this would be easier if this double price dissapeared from our lives. Then we could focus all our energies on our real job, which is to facilitate the use of Faircoin in real economy.
For some months we have been trying to raise the market price by buying coins on Coinexchange and Bittrex. This approach hasn't worked, and even if it did, it wouldn't accomplish the long term goal, which is, again, to make our economy independent from the capitalist logic.
We can't avoid that a few people trade faircoin at a price different than the one we democratically decided by consensus, but now it's just too easy.
Currently we are strong enough to control this "free market", and we ought to do so. We can put pressure on Coinexchange to delist FairCoin, or we can collectively agree to stop buying there until it gets delisted, and do the same if it appears on other exchanges. Then we will be finally free.
Of course some people have real urgent needs for fiat money, because they didn't have a good planning or they had an emergency. It is also our moral responsibility to show solidarity towards them, but also ask them what they need the money for, and find fair alternatives together. After all, we are all comrades who must care for and love each other. This does not mean we have to guarantee cashback in every ocasion. Solidarity means helping people to get out of the system, not to get back to it.
Nobody said it would be easy. We are hacking the state's patriarchal and capitalist financial system, the enemy of nature and society. This is not just another financial tool. Let's not forget what we are here for.
https://git.fairkom.net/FairCoin/FairCoin_Economy_Strategies/-/issues/13Self-organised liquidity pool aka Bursar Committee.2018-08-01T21:15:20ZGampe SebastianSelf-organised liquidity pool aka Bursar Committee.3.1. Self-organised liquidity pool aka Bursar Committee.
I proposed "Bursar Committee" as self-organised group, running fundraising campaigns of various kind on solidarity basis. The goal is to receive support motivated by political reas...3.1. Self-organised liquidity pool aka Bursar Committee.
I proposed "Bursar Committee" as self-organised group, running fundraising campaigns of various kind on solidarity basis. The goal is to receive support motivated by political reasons, not future gains.
So possible ways to get help I see:
- Communities of various kind, contributing some of their money (or specially arranged benefits).
- socially aware entities (business and otherwise), sharing part of their surplus.
- political fundraising campaigns (firefund?)
The group would run public exchange, for people who need fiat money for sustenance and their political activities. All allocations (pseudonymised) would be public as well as allocation criteria. There are conversions that have to be confidential, but there are also some (like in my case) that do not need to be. And this is the area where we can build collective competence and capacity.
If such group emerges, I can contribute as follows:
Because I am runninng out of money at all, I plan to start selling some (official, tested and manufactured in Poland) hangover-curing dietary supplement. For my survival needs (2 people and 2 dogs) and minimal technical activity I need 1000 Euro per month.
So, for next 6 months counting from first sale, I will transfer all net surplus over 1000 Euro to the bursar group pool, buing FC at the community-established value.
My sales will be done via FreedomCoop, so it will be easy to control if I keep my promise.https://git.fairkom.net/FairCoin/FairCoin_Economy_Strategies/-/issues/12Global South2018-08-01T21:12:22ZGampe SebastianGlobal SouthBursar ( Liquidity Board of Commons) Committee plus PoE exchange group work on getting money from North to South of Globe through tight net of PoE personell and planing of transactions.Bursar ( Liquidity Board of Commons) Committee plus PoE exchange group work on getting money from North to South of Globe through tight net of PoE personell and planing of transactions.https://git.fairkom.net/FairCoin/FairCoin_Economy_Strategies/-/issues/11Getfaircoin Decentralization2018-08-01T21:08:54ZGampe SebastianGetfaircoin DecentralizationThe aim of the proposal is to diversify our sources of euro inflows, increase the number of people who can support this service and bring these efforts closer to the local level so that local nodes can be more responsible in managing liq...The aim of the proposal is to diversify our sources of euro inflows, increase the number of people who can support this service and bring these efforts closer to the local level so that local nodes can be more responsible in managing liquidity.
https://board.net/p/GetfaircoinDecentralization
Remember, another good method for increasing income is through localbitcoin.com: to but bitcoin locally in a city where it's cheap and sell it where it is expensive.https://git.fairkom.net/FairCoin/FairCoin_Economy_Strategies/-/issues/10Getfaircoin and the POEs can sell temporaly in a PROMOTIONAL CAMPAIGN at 0.80...2018-08-01T21:06:30ZGampe SebastianGetfaircoin and the POEs can sell temporaly in a PROMOTIONAL CAMPAIGN at 0.80 euros(This price has a psychological factor as you receive more numerically than you deliver, and that is perceived as a discount or profit).
The proposal is not to reduce the official price, it is a bonus and limited sales promotion, which ...(This price has a psychological factor as you receive more numerically than you deliver, and that is perceived as a discount or profit).
The proposal is not to reduce the official price, it is a bonus and limited sales promotion, which does not reduce the value of the faircoins in property or change the value of the products and services in circulation.
(At the same time, I propose that all of us who participate in this group bet on an increasing faircoin value, never less than 1/2 of the official price (0.60 euros). This should reduce lower sales offers and increase higher purchase requests, so that the market value moves towards 0.80 of the promotion.)
There will still be a difference between the free market and getfaircoin, but it will be much smaller, which will make it more attractive than now to buy in the official promotion.
I (who?) have thought about these values based on different criteria: growth of users, nodes, transactions in the last year... new and exciting experiences of circular economy and collective tools... increase and decrease of bitcoin in the last year... and I am convinced that the market value of faircoin has received a greater penalty. (In my opinion, a faircoin should have a value between 0.80 and 1 euro.)
It will be important and necessary to make a letter to the producers to explain that this is a temporary offer of limited sale of faircoins at a promotional price. Emphasizing that the official price remains the same, and that the entry of euros will be used to ensure future needs of exchange to euros, while we implement other sources of income to ensure our internal liquidity.
For buyers, it is a limited opportunity to buy official faircoins at a 1/3 discount from their value, which can then materialize into a varied offer of products and services within our ecosystem.https://git.fairkom.net/FairCoin/FairCoin_Economy_Strategies/-/issues/9Publish getFairCoin Euro balances2018-08-01T16:50:05ZRoland AltonPublish getFairCoin Euro balanceshttps://git.fairkom.net/FairCoin/FairCoin_Economy_Strategies/-/issues/8limted monthly price increase of max. 15-20%2018-08-01T17:34:16ZSuperMariolimted monthly price increase of max. 15-20%I made some calculations starting from the beginning of 2016 until now. If we would have increased the price every month 15% we would almost exactly end up at an official price of 1.20 this month, August 2018.
A problem I see is not jus...I made some calculations starting from the beginning of 2016 until now. If we would have increased the price every month 15% we would almost exactly end up at an official price of 1.20 this month, August 2018.
A problem I see is not just that we increased the price to fast but that we didn't increase the price gradually beforehand in a more natural way, which lead to an overshoot. Anyway, this of course just work if we have the backing liquidity as we cannot neglect the market as we tried to before.
Thus, my proposal is to have a price assembly around every 2 months, where we have a limited range of maximum 30-40%. This would just apply under the condition that we have a certain percentage of liquidity(!) which has to be defined and also that other statistic numbers of the ecosystem support this increase. If this is not the case, we shouldn't increase the price.
(We should also be aware of some bubble indicators, like when the market increase significantly beyond the official price we need to be more aware of it than excited as external forces like pump groups can still influence us)https://git.fairkom.net/FairCoin/FairCoin_Economy_Strategies/-/issues/7Statistical informations about FairPay and BotC2018-07-30T09:47:11ZGampe SebastianStatistical informations about FairPay and BotCGetting more information about the progress of FairCoin Economy it would be nice to have the stats of FairPay and BotC wallet-2-wallet transfers available.
The blockchain doesn't show a growth in last 6 to 12 month but Enric argue that...Getting more information about the progress of FairCoin Economy it would be nice to have the stats of FairPay and BotC wallet-2-wallet transfers available.
The blockchain doesn't show a growth in last 6 to 12 month but Enric argue that the growth is made offchain on FairPay and BotC wallet-2-wallet transfers.
Maybe we could show all transaction sources ( FairPay, BotC w2w an blockchain ) in a chart and summarize all to get a full view of economy.https://git.fairkom.net/FairCoin/FairCoin_Economy_Strategies/-/issues/6Creation of manufacturing sector ( proposed by Petros )2018-07-29T14:44:52ZGampe SebastianCreation of manufacturing sector ( proposed by Petros )Initiate creation of manufacturing sector for FairCoin economy, through Community Supported Manufacturing contract, as proposed by Petros in
https://matrix.cni-coop.net/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.cni-coop.net/lffUjisUILviLHxSJDWy...Initiate creation of manufacturing sector for FairCoin economy, through Community Supported Manufacturing contract, as proposed by Petros in
https://matrix.cni-coop.net/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.cni-coop.net/lffUjisUILviLHxSJDWyNLLb https://git.fairkom.net/FairCoin/FairCoin_Economy_Strategies/-/issues/5Decrease the official price2018-08-01T10:40:00ZGampe SebastianDecrease the official priceThe market price is very far away from official price and we should take in account that the 1.20€ is not real but driven by speculations.
We should decrease the official price that seems to be nearer on the reality and close the big ga...The market price is very far away from official price and we should take in account that the 1.20€ is not real but driven by speculations.
We should decrease the official price that seems to be nearer on the reality and close the big gap as good as possible and start from a lower but more sustainable base.https://git.fairkom.net/FairCoin/FairCoin_Economy_Strategies/-/issues/4Open Transaction List2018-07-29T13:45:50ZGampe SebastianOpen Transaction ListIf anybody don't have a positive Web-of-Trust rating and don't want to request it then he can do the transaction public ( pseudonymous ) and can improve the score getting an exchange slot.If anybody don't have a positive Web-of-Trust rating and don't want to request it then he can do the transaction public ( pseudonymous ) and can improve the score getting an exchange slot.https://git.fairkom.net/FairCoin/FairCoin_Economy_Strategies/-/issues/3Web-Of-Trust2018-08-01T10:44:41ZGampe SebastianWeb-Of-TrustI propose to start a creation of a Web-of-Trust.
Every user can request a trust state to the Web-of-Trust rating members.
The rating members will be community members with a high level of trust, a lot of experiences in different FairCoi...I propose to start a creation of a Web-of-Trust.
Every user can request a trust state to the Web-of-Trust rating members.
The rating members will be community members with a high level of trust, a lot of experiences in different FairCoin/FairCoop projects, maybe a minimum age of FairCoop membership, ...
The rating members will receive a list of requests of new users ( data get by a simple form to explain their situation and which fair projects involved ( also outside of FairCoop ) )
Also if users misusage our services then the rating members can rate the user down.
To decentralize it the number of rating members should be high and in every local node should be minimum one rating member.
The rating itself can't be done only by one rating member but need a check/confirmation by others.
Longterm I could imagine to create a full decentralized Web-of-Trust but for the start we need to get experiences first and see how spammers will react.https://git.fairkom.net/FairCoin/FairCoin_Economy_Strategies/-/issues/2Set the focus of getfaircoin.net primary to the community and not to all.2018-08-01T10:43:08ZGampe SebastianSet the focus of getfaircoin.net primary to the community and not to all.Preventing some arbitrage speculations and service misusages from speculators and capitalists that want destroy our services we should set the focus of our services primary to the community and trustful members and secondary to everybody...Preventing some arbitrage speculations and service misusages from speculators and capitalists that want destroy our services we should set the focus of our services primary to the community and trustful members and secondary to everybody.
We should select the user of our services by a different tools/methods, for example Web-of-Trust or/and Open Transaction list.
I would like to define a limited number of exchanges ( slots in sizes 100€ & 1000€ ) and priorize the users by a score of trust made by a web-of-trust and/or open transaction list.
If the demand of the exchanges is very high then untrusted users need to wait some days until the demand is lower again.https://git.fairkom.net/FairCoin/FairCoin_Economy_Strategies/-/issues/1Re(name) the official FairCoin price to "community price"2018-08-01T10:41:03ZGampe SebastianRe(name) the official FairCoin price to "community price"I propose to set the focus more to the trusted community and define it "community price" preventing some misunderstandings that the stable from the community supported price is warranted for everybody ( speculators, investors, ... )I propose to set the focus more to the trusted community and define it "community price" preventing some misunderstandings that the stable from the community supported price is warranted for everybody ( speculators, investors, ... )